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	<title>Comments on: Odds and marginal profitability</title>
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		<title>By: Marginal vs Average profitability and TTD &#171; ozrisk.net</title>
		<link>http://ozrisk.net/2008/05/01/odds-and-marginal-profitability/#comment-26271</link>
		<dc:creator>Marginal vs Average profitability and TTD &#171; ozrisk.net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 14:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] II, Credit Risk, Default Analytics by Clive Tags: average, cut-off, marginal, scorecard, TTD   The previous post discussed setting of scorecard cut-off by the criterion of marginal profit, which translates to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] II, Credit Risk, Default Analytics by Clive Tags: average, cut-off, marginal, scorecard, TTD   The previous post discussed setting of scorecard cut-off by the criterion of marginal profit, which translates to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Clive</title>
		<link>http://ozrisk.net/2008/05/01/odds-and-marginal-profitability/#comment-26269</link>
		<dc:creator>Clive</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 12:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some suggestions offerred on no great authority:

The revenue/cost model would have a parameter input for the interest rate charged: as one cranks this parameter upwards (e.g. 12%-14%-16%) the model naturally reports better and better profits on the good accounts (but by the same token becomes a less attractive proposition in the market). For this illustration let's say just 3 interest rates offerings are envisaged (12%, 14%, 16%). 

Start with the parameters for premium customers i.e. the best interest rate the product can offer (12%). Figure the break-even on this basis, which will require fairly good odds (say, 32:1) because the profit per good customer is at the low end and so one needs more goods (at least 32) to offset one bad. Whatever score 32:1 translates to (say, a score of 600) is then the cut-off for the best rate (12%), and any customer whose score is over 600 is offered 12% and hopefully this is also a good marketing proposition for them.

Those who fall not far below 600 would be a loss on average @12%, but running the model with the assumption of 14% interest would naturally boost the revenue side and require fewer goods (say, only 16), to offset the one bad. This means that down to 16:1 (score=580) you can still do profitable business @14%. So, in the intermediate score band 580-600 you could offer 14% but not 12%. Whether this is a good proposition in the market depends on the customer's options. If another bank's scorecard puts them in the premier band, they'll place their business there. If all scorecards worked equally well, the customer should find themselves generally rejected or offerred less than premier rates, so your offering would then be competitive to that customer.

Continuing likewise, your profit model predicts that @16% interest, you are making so much surplus from the goods that it takes only 8 of them to offset one bad. 8:1 odds means a score of 560, so applicants scoring in the range 560-580 could be offered 16% and be expected to be profitable business on average. Naturally down here the pricing signals are strong and the bank would need to feel confident of the assumptions and models being used in extending credit to applicants who presumably are marginal prospects.

As before, all the figures quoted are fictional, but hopefully the concept makes sense. The scores are based on 5001:1 and PDO=20.

A subtle point is the value of a good scorecard. A scorecard that discriminates well should enable the bank to price accurately and competitively in the market and thereby to gain share, and profitably so. An institution with a weak scorecard should find themselves struggling in all three tiers (if they followed a similar plan). This segues to the more complicated consideration of the actions and behaviours of one's competitors.

Hope these comments are helpful and generate some contributions from those with more experience on these points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some suggestions offerred on no great authority:</p>
<p>The revenue/cost model would have a parameter input for the interest rate charged: as one cranks this parameter upwards (e.g. 12%-14%-16%) the model naturally reports better and better profits on the good accounts (but by the same token becomes a less attractive proposition in the market). For this illustration let&#8217;s say just 3 interest rates offerings are envisaged (12%, 14%, 16%). </p>
<p>Start with the parameters for premium customers i.e. the best interest rate the product can offer (12%). Figure the break-even on this basis, which will require fairly good odds (say, 32:1) because the profit per good customer is at the low end and so one needs more goods (at least 32) to offset one bad. Whatever score 32:1 translates to (say, a score of 600) is then the cut-off for the best rate (12%), and any customer whose score is over 600 is offered 12% and hopefully this is also a good marketing proposition for them.</p>
<p>Those who fall not far below 600 would be a loss on average @12%, but running the model with the assumption of 14% interest would naturally boost the revenue side and require fewer goods (say, only 16), to offset the one bad. This means that down to 16:1 (score=580) you can still do profitable business @14%. So, in the intermediate score band 580-600 you could offer 14% but not 12%. Whether this is a good proposition in the market depends on the customer&#8217;s options. If another bank&#8217;s scorecard puts them in the premier band, they&#8217;ll place their business there. If all scorecards worked equally well, the customer should find themselves generally rejected or offerred less than premier rates, so your offering would then be competitive to that customer.</p>
<p>Continuing likewise, your profit model predicts that @16% interest, you are making so much surplus from the goods that it takes only 8 of them to offset one bad. 8:1 odds means a score of 560, so applicants scoring in the range 560-580 could be offered 16% and be expected to be profitable business on average. Naturally down here the pricing signals are strong and the bank would need to feel confident of the assumptions and models being used in extending credit to applicants who presumably are marginal prospects.</p>
<p>As before, all the figures quoted are fictional, but hopefully the concept makes sense. The scores are based on 5001:1 and PDO=20.</p>
<p>A subtle point is the value of a good scorecard. A scorecard that discriminates well should enable the bank to price accurately and competitively in the market and thereby to gain share, and profitably so. An institution with a weak scorecard should find themselves struggling in all three tiers (if they followed a similar plan). This segues to the more complicated consideration of the actions and behaviours of one&#8217;s competitors.</p>
<p>Hope these comments are helpful and generate some contributions from those with more experience on these points.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://ozrisk.net/2008/05/01/odds-and-marginal-profitability/#comment-26268</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 00:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clive,
It also does not allow for risk-based pricing. It has always interested me on how you set the bands and cut-off when you are pricing for risk. Perhaps you can over that at some stage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clive,<br />
It also does not allow for risk-based pricing. It has always interested me on how you set the bands and cut-off when you are pricing for risk. Perhaps you can over that at some stage?</p>
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